The Reliability of the Jeep Cherokee

With every automobile there are going to be variable opinions about reliability. For instance, my grandfather owns a Cadillac Catera and has had it since it was brand new. Try going to the dealership to find parts and they are either no longer available or it is going to take nearly a month to get what you need. Countless times the salesman have attempted to convince him to trade the car in and have literally told him it is just a piece of junk. That is not how grandpa sees it though. Having driven the car I can say when it does run it rides well. I can remember after I bought my Jeep Cherokee that my grandfather asked me a ton of questions and actually questioned why I wanted an “old” vehicle and why I wanted to go offroading. He insinuated I was spending a lot of money, which if you wrote everything down I had done whether it be upgrades or maintenance/repairs, wouldn’t come close to what he has spent fixing his Catera. Plain and simple,  it is just not reliable like my Jeep Cherokee.

My Jeep may be over 20 years old and some will see it as ready to go to the scrap yard (which infuriates me). A few dents here and there doesn’t make it a bad vehicle. What does is under the hood and the drivetrain if you have had to constantly make repairs. I so want to ask people how many times their automobile has left them stranded, been repaired by them and how many miles they actually have on theirs? Now I will give credit to my Toyota friends that their automobiles do just as good as my Cherokee. I am amazed at some of the mileage stories I have heard from long time Toyota owners.

If you are a Jalopnik.com reader you may have recently come across an article about the top ten best used cars to buy with your tax refund. In case you haven’t though, their #4 pick is the Jeep Cherokee: http://jalopnik.com/5902578/the-ten-best-used-cars-to-buy-with-your-tax-refund/gallery/8 .

I used to think that a car with over 100K miles was getting worn out. Not with a Jeep Cherokee and according to my Jeep friends, that is barely breaking it in. My boyfriends Cherokee has 350K miles on it with original parts; mine has around 220K miles on it though I have changed out the engine and transmission.

The original owner of my Cherokee didn’t take care of her very well so when I brought her home I discovered a cracked head. That’s no biggie since I went to Pull-A-Part junk yard in Atlanta to get another one. Six months later I purchased a Grand Cherokee from my uncle just for the engine he had spent lots of money on overhauling. The only reason why I changed out my transmission was because of my rough off roading skills. I apparently had crimped the lines together. Looking at the prices for new lines I realized I could just buy another used transmission. I ended up getting one for free from an XJ friend though which was even better.
So I have had to replace a radiator a time or two (due to manufacturer defects), a battery that cracked, a water pump and a throttle position sensor. Those are all normal maintenance repairs that happen in the life of an automobile. The times that I have been stranded on the side of the road are because of operator error, mostly running out of gas thinking I could go just a little further down the road to a cheaper gas station. Once was a new radiator that split at the tank which was plastic (sigh).

In the five years that I have owned my Cherokee I have driven it a lot. One year I decided to make a spur of the moment trip to Texas for Thanksgiving with two of my kids in tow. While my mom was in a panic because my Jeep was “old” in her eyes, I was confident I would get there and back, 1,800 miles later. I have driven it to Harlan, Kentucky which is a four hour drive one way at least once a year and sometimes twice. I lived in Cookeville, Tennessee about 100 miles one way from my hometown at least twice a month for a year. I just about drive my Cherokee everyday taking my kids to school and running errands.

Before I owned the Jeep, I had a 2000 Mazda MPV mini van. It was fancy with the leather seats, sun roof and video player, but I wasn’t happy with it. I liked it because it had room for my kids and their stuff I had to tag along when they were babies and toddlers, but it wasn’t me. I made the decision I wanted a vehicle I could easily find parts for, do a lot of the repairs on my own and was known to be reliable. After talking with my best friend I learned the Jeep Cherokee fit all three categories. I remembered my step dad owned a Cherokee and loved it. He drove it until it fell apart and it had close to 300K miles on it when he sold it.

Out of the nine automobiles I have ever owned which includes two Hondas and Mazdas, Chevrolet and Fords, the Jeep Cherokee has been the best and most reliable of them all. It is the one and only vehicle I have ever been happy with. Ask my three kids what their favorite vehicle has been and they will tell you the Jeep.

 

Jeep Drivers

Most of the time when I am out driving my lifted XJ I see other XJ’s, TJ’s, YJ’s and the like being driven by guys. Every once in awhile I will come across a female driver. Lately whenever I have passed other lifted XJ’s I get the “Jeep Wave” by guys which does make me feel like I am a part of the “group.” I have to admit that this past week I did drive as if I were in a tunnel and no other vehicles expect Jeeps existed. Several times I would pass XJ’s particularly lifted ones. I nearly ran over a car in front of me because all I could see were two lifted XJ’s that were giving me the Jeep wave. I wouldn’t mind getting together with some of these drivers to have some fun.

An issue I have come across is whenever I meet up with a group of people that talk about upcoming trips to go wheeling it usually consists of guys driving and their girlfriends or wives riding shotgun. As a female, if I attempt to join in the local group gatherings it is usually responded with hesitation or a cold shoulder.

I am a part of a group  of XJ’ers that communicates through Yahoo’s XJlist that meets twice a year mainly in Harlan, KY at Blackmountain Off Road Park, Putney Trailhead. Most of the guys are from Kentucky in the Louisville area along with some who are from Ohio, Tennessee, North Carolina, etc. Typically there are about 20 people that join in the Spring Flings and Fall Crawls held every year.

According to one of the guys that manages Black Mountain Off Road Park, I am one of the only females he knows has driven her own rig on the trails. Most of the time the girlfriends or wives will drive the rigs down to the restrooms and showers. The rest of the time they are riding shotgun.

Almost five years ago with a completely stock XJ I proved myself to the group that I can do just about anything they could do and wasn’t scared to do it. Below is a picture of me on Trail 39 at Windrock OHV park in Oliver Springs, TN in October 2007.

 

 

In 2010, I really proved myself when my XJ nearly slid off the ledge of a trail known as Rail Bed in Black Mountain. This trail was mostly consisting of debris from mining in the area so the ground would give away, which is exactly what happened in my case. Approximately eight feet below was a massive pointy boulder. Every time we visit that trail the guys look down in awe and tell me they could have never handled that situation as well as I did. Luckily for me I had an awesome group of guys that immediately knew what to do and get it done quickly.

 

 

 

The next time I was at Black Mountain I proved I was not intimidated by Rail Bed and actually lead the group into the trail which the group has nicknamed “Jenny’s Trail.”  Rail Bed has actually become one of my favorite trails when I visit Black Mountain. Trail 15 and the Lower Rock Garden would be my next favorite places. One day I would love to have a rig built enough to get through Mason Jar.

Every time I do visit Black Mountain there are people in other rigs and ATV’s that do double takes when they see me driving a rig. It brings a smile to my face especially when I can over hear them say there is a girl driving that Jeep!

 

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1999 Jeep Cherokee Alternator Replacement

1999 Jeep Cherokee Alternator Replacement

Our 1999 Jeep Cherokee has over 270000 miles on it and has recently been having some odd problems with voltage. On occasion, the volt meter would drop to 9 and the check gauges light would come on. Stopping the Jeep and restarting would normally clear it right up. I assumed it was a gauge issues and not really a voltage problem. Testing the battery with a VOM always showed it to be fully charged.

However, a couple of days ago while Janice was driving, the voltage dropped and stayed down. When she stopped, the Jeep would not restart. The battery was dead. Jennifer had to jump start her from her Jeep.

Later, while I was driving it, it died in traffic and I had to push it to the side of the road. I retrieved it on the trailer and took it to the shop. Testing showed the battery completely drained.

I put the charger on the battery and began pulling the alternator. Removing he alternator from the 99 was similar to the earlier models but with a couple of differences.

First, the field wiring connector is a plug in rather than bolt on. It took some force to release the clip but it pulled right out. The min lead connects just like the others with a 10mm nut on a stud. Be sure to disconnect the battery before messing with this nut.

Next, I collected my 15 mm socket and 9/16 socket knowing I would need both. Working from below, I removed the bottom bolt that passes through the alternator boss. I then loosened the 15mm bolt next to it. I then loosened the 9/16 nuts that bolt the bracket to the block. They only need to be loosed a turn or two not removed.

Then, I removed the long bolt that passed through the upper alternator mount. Both ends of this bolt require a 15mm. I found it easier to hold the bolt and turn the nut due to the fan being in the way. I found one position of the fan that allowed the bolt to come all the way out.

With the two bolts out and the bracket loose, I slid the alternator up to loosen the belt and then to the side to separate it from the brackets. Mine was stuck to the brackets with some corrosion so I had to use a pry bar to break it free. Once the alternator was free of the bracket, I twisted it to find just the right angle to bring it down past the frame rail and oil pan.

With the alternator out, I noticed some corrosion on the field wiring terminals. This may have been the cause of my intermittent troubles. However, I elected to replace the alternator anyway. It tested “good” on the AutoZone tester, but with its age, I decided to replace it anyway.

Installing the new alternator involved finding the right angle to slip it up past the bracket and lowering it back into place. It is possible to reinstall without adjusting the belt tension, but I chose to install a new belt at the same time as well.

I began by slipping the lower bolt in place. I then rotated the alternator to line up the upper bolt. Then, I found the right place to put the fan and slipped the upper bolt in. I tightened the upper and lower muting bolts then snugged up the reaming nuts and bolts that I had loosened but not removed.

I put the main wire back on and then plugged in the field wiring. I then put the battery cable back. I then threaded in the new belt and adjusted the tension.

The Jeep started right up and the voltage read correctly on the gauge. I test drive indicated everything was back to normal. We had experienced some belt squeal when the AC was first turned on but with the new belt, that was gone as well. After the test drive I checked the battery and it was at 13.7 just like it should be.

Jeep Cherokee Fuel Pump Relay

Jeep Cherokee Fuel Pump Relay

This morning when I started my Jeep it stumbled and stalled a few seconds after it cranked. When I tried to restart, I noticed I could no longer hear the fuel pump running.

I pulled the cover on the relay panel under the hood and used the paper clip I keep there to jump the relay. The pump ran and I could hear the regulator venting pressure. I put the relay back in place and tried to start the Jeep again.

The Jeep started but stalled again. Again I could not hear the fuel pump running. I opened the hood again and swapped the fuel pump relay and the aux fan relay. This time when I turned on the key, I heard the familiar buzzing of the fuel pump. I guess the relay made its last click this morning. I will pick up a replacement at Advance Auto later today.

Update: Autozone did not correctly list the relay and did not have the correct part at all. Advance had the right part for $13.